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points. >> but democrats trail in target states i mentioned but especially virginia, ohio, iowa and nevada. early absentee voting is not where it was for democrats in 2008. >> we had a thing back and forth and every single one of these is a toss up. each one. including pennsylvania. but, tomorrow, mitt romney 8 be in virginia, virginia, ohio, and new hampshire. look at states, and he has virginia, he has to work on ohio, and new hampshire is a toss up. bob: why he is going there? >> he has to win. obama will be in wisconsin, ohio, and iowa, both spending time in ohio. but interesting that obama goes to wisconsin which would indicate he is concerned about wisconsin. if ohio goes to romney, obama has to have wisconsin. >> speaking of ohio, the g.o.p. is 250,000 votes ahead of where they were four years ago in early voting. that is a state that obama won by 260,000 votes so they is wiped out the obama lead. >> i am not a numbers person, i try to pull out of that but i try to look at feeling. certainly, when you look at ohio in 2008, i don't think there is any republican who could have sat her
points. >> but democrats trail in target states i mentioned but especially virginia, ohio, iowa and nevada. early absentee voting is not where it was for democrats in 2008. >> we had a thing back and forth and every single one of these is a toss up. each one. including pennsylvania. but, tomorrow, mitt romney 8 be in virginia, virginia, ohio, and new hampshire. look at states, and he has virginia, he has to work on ohio, and new hampshire is a toss up. bob: why he is going there?...
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but you have nevada which is leaning towards obama and wisconsin is still leaning towards obama. ohio, is my view, is in dispense able. >> where did you read that nevada is leaning towards obama. >> i haven't seen a poll are romney leading first. it's one-third hispanic, and this heavily unionized. >> i have people there and they don't think that at all. >> that's the wrong neighborhood. >> here's the point i want to make. the polls today are regarded at microscopically perfect, you and i know, say ten years ago when you were still doing this show because of your tenacity, and because of my leniency. >> 0 years ago. >> 20 years ago, 30, polls were regarded as a rock makes, these polls today have -- as approximation, these polls today are -- >> there is money to be made. >> one or two -- [ talking over one another ] >> i hate to see this come to an end. >> polls are not that precise. >> if they weren't that precise, why do politicians spend that much money on them? >> they are false idols. they are worshiping the false idol. >> the media are more obsessed with polling than before.
but you have nevada which is leaning towards obama and wisconsin is still leaning towards obama. ohio, is my view, is in dispense able. >> where did you read that nevada is leaning towards obama. >> i haven't seen a poll are romney leading first. it's one-third hispanic, and this heavily unionized. >> i have people there and they don't think that at all. >> that's the wrong neighborhood. >> here's the point i want to make. the polls today are regarded at...
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so we're also looking at tight races in places like nevada, wisconsin, virginia. we got a handful of really tight races only won by a point or two. >> what about ohio? >> you know, very interesting. the parties have been looking at very different polling between democrat sherrod brown and republican josh mandell. democrats are not worried about sherrod brown. but republicans say we show it much closer. i suspect though, brown pulls it out. >> in the house, in florida particularly, you have some really controversial candidates. one is very outspoken tea party republican allen west and the other is allen grayson, running to return to the house. >> any state that could elect either one is an accepting and forgiving electorate or they can't make up their minds. allen west has actually put up his opponent's mug shot from when he was 19 years old and that's unprecedented. most tea party representatives, no matter how controversial they are, will be re-elected. >> what about harry reid in nevada? we've seen that he has a machine in nevada and can deliver. >> he has spent
so we're also looking at tight races in places like nevada, wisconsin, virginia. we got a handful of really tight races only won by a point or two. >> what about ohio? >> you know, very interesting. the parties have been looking at very different polling between democrat sherrod brown and republican josh mandell. democrats are not worried about sherrod brown. but republicans say we show it much closer. i suspect though, brown pulls it out. >> in the house, in florida...
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. >> nevada. >> nevada. close but to dean heller. >> all right. next one? >> ohio. it's closed up but brown wins. >> does he outperform the president by what, two points? >> i don't know. >> yeah, yeah. >> if you were to guess, it's going to be a tight race? >> florida, nelson beats mak. then we get to virginia. >> where are you there? >> i guess i would give kane maybe a tiny finger on the scale. >> give it to blue? >> i don't know. >> we'll put it there for now. that gets us through the presidential toss-ups. let's go to the red states if you will. these are a ton of great states. >> flake wins. >> montana, that's scary. everybody, both sides say it's really too close. >> the libertarian candidate is going to make the winning number. >> it could. >> i guess he gets a couple. this guy john tester up a point or two and the question is does that save him? let's do edge tester. >> all right. next one? north dakota right next door. >> berg wins. it's very very close. >> the same way you feel about montana. >> yeah. >> not quite as close. >> yeah. >> let's stick in the
. >> nevada. >> nevada. close but to dean heller. >> all right. next one? >> ohio. it's closed up but brown wins. >> does he outperform the president by what, two points? >> i don't know. >> yeah, yeah. >> if you were to guess, it's going to be a tight race? >> florida, nelson beats mak. then we get to virginia. >> where are you there? >> i guess i would give kane maybe a tiny finger on the scale. >> give it to blue?...
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nevada is one of the worst states for housing. nevada and florida. host: 61.2% of all nevada mortgages are underwater. nevada has the highest unemployment rate in the country. they moved from 14% to a 11.8%. still fantastically high. one reason -- they moved from 14% to 11.8% host: virginia has one of the lowest unemployment rates. if you believe the polls, they think mitt romney might win virginia. barack obama mike win of nevada, where the unemployment rate is much higher. -- might win nevada, where the unemployment rate is much higher. guest: there are complicated reasons for that. virginia has seen quite a bit of uncertainty lazy. with the fiscal cliff, are a lot of government workers who live in virginia. with the potential spending cuts and defense cuts coming, it is making employers shaky about hiring. host: if you look at manufacturing in pennsylvania, it mirrors ohio in terms of the employment rate. have you looked at that states? guest: the unemployment rate has not moved a lot. that could be one reason why voters are still trying to decide
nevada is one of the worst states for housing. nevada and florida. host: 61.2% of all nevada mortgages are underwater. nevada has the highest unemployment rate in the country. they moved from 14% to a 11.8%. still fantastically high. one reason -- they moved from 14% to 11.8% host: virginia has one of the lowest unemployment rates. if you believe the polls, they think mitt romney might win virginia. barack obama mike win of nevada, where the unemployment rate is much higher. -- might win...
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but what about states like michigan, nevada, pennsylvania, how much are they in play? especially since pennsylvania, president obama won that one, but he's not apparently taking for granted clinton will be campaigning there in his behalf? >> pennsylvania has a million more registered democrats than republicans. so it is a state that republicans have tried to contest in the last few presidential elections and have failed. but there's always sort of enough of an opportunity there that they end up making a last-minute push there. the other thing to remember is that when you're campaigning in western pennsylvania, you're hitting the tv markets in even iowa. so you do get a little bit of a t two-fer there as well. >> going to be a crazy busy couple of days for karen, for everyone. >>> the race for president is in a dead heat, so where do you think the candidates are spending a lot of their time other than ohio? there isn't another place they're spending their time. ohio, ohio, ohio. we'll go live. ...and in the tiniest details. ♪ and sometimes both. nature valley granola
but what about states like michigan, nevada, pennsylvania, how much are they in play? especially since pennsylvania, president obama won that one, but he's not apparently taking for granted clinton will be campaigning there in his behalf? >> pennsylvania has a million more registered democrats than republicans. so it is a state that republicans have tried to contest in the last few presidential elections and have failed. but there's always sort of enough of an opportunity there that they...
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i've been in here 23, 24 days, i think we're going to win iowa, wisconsin, nevada, new hampshire. i think we've got an even chance of winning virginia and florida. so it could be a big win. it also could be close. but the firewall here of ohio, wisconsin, iowa -- >> talk to your stake holders. tell them what they should do on tuesday. >> if you can vote early, vote earlier. but don't just vote, bring your mom, your dad, bring your cousin, knock on the door of your neighbor. the middle depends on it. >> vice president joe biden, thank you for your time. good luck. >>> north carolina and colorado look pretty tough. coming up, where does the race stand? we have the results of the latest and last poll before the election. that's next. and we have our top people here tonight. chuck todd, howard fineman, eugene robinson and others. the big question is about big bill. if president obama does win re-election tuesday night, the person he can thank the most perhaps probably is the guy he was campaigning with in new hampshire, bill clinton, the big dog could be the one who pulls him over the
i've been in here 23, 24 days, i think we're going to win iowa, wisconsin, nevada, new hampshire. i think we've got an even chance of winning virginia and florida. so it could be a big win. it also could be close. but the firewall here of ohio, wisconsin, iowa -- >> talk to your stake holders. tell them what they should do on tuesday. >> if you can vote early, vote earlier. but don't just vote, bring your mom, your dad, bring your cousin, knock on the door of your neighbor. the...
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how do you think the president is going to perform in swing states like colorado and nevada? >> well, my view is that that hispanic vote, which is key in my state with 43%, it's key in nevada and colorado upwards of 20%, is going to come out in huge turnout because of the president's strong records are hispanics on job creation, health care, and immigration reform. and the perception that the romney campaign that the republicans have kind of written off hispanics. the harsh rhetoric against latinos on the dream act, on the immigration bill, in the primaries, i think it's going to be decisive. and what a president needs, a democratic needs to get reelected is 65% of the hispanic vote nationally and i think president obama is going to top that. and he's going to get close to 70%. and again, i believe that's going to be decisive. and it could be decisive in florida with a noncuban american latinos that trend republican but the central americans, that's who i was campaigning with in the last few days. >> i want to ask about something practical due to the gasoline shortage in new
how do you think the president is going to perform in swing states like colorado and nevada? >> well, my view is that that hispanic vote, which is key in my state with 43%, it's key in nevada and colorado upwards of 20%, is going to come out in huge turnout because of the president's strong records are hispanics on job creation, health care, and immigration reform. and the perception that the romney campaign that the republicans have kind of written off hispanics. the harsh rhetoric...
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i've been in here 23, 24 days, we're going to win iowa, wisconsin, nevada, new hampshire. i think we've got an even chance of winning virginia and florida. so it could be a big win. don't just vote. bring your mom, your dad, cousin, knock on the door of your neighbor. let me tell you something, the middle class depends on it. >> joining me from the battleground state of ohio is our own national treasure, chris matthews. it's always great to see you. congratulations on the interviews. how much of that confidence is genuine and how much is spin in the homestretch? >> he felt confident when i talked to him off camera. of course, north carolina, new hampshire and colorado are up in the air. he said virginia and florida would be tough, as well. did you notice the discordance on the right wing of getting along with the other side? on the one hand, the romney is saying we should get along with the other side saying he could work with a republican congress. of course he can, he's a republican. then you have rupert murdoch trashing the governor of new jersey for the same thing, wor
i've been in here 23, 24 days, we're going to win iowa, wisconsin, nevada, new hampshire. i think we've got an even chance of winning virginia and florida. so it could be a big win. don't just vote. bring your mom, your dad, cousin, knock on the door of your neighbor. let me tell you something, the middle class depends on it. >> joining me from the battleground state of ohio is our own national treasure, chris matthews. it's always great to see you. congratulations on the interviews. how...
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i mean, that certainly is really all that he needs, but in addition to that, he will probably win nevada, and i agree with ann. it's very, very close in florida. i'm not ready to say that romney will win it, but it is very close. i still think -- you know i have been saying this for several weeks that the latino vote will give president obama more than an edge in places like florida and nav mav and colorado and arizona even possibly to be able to give him that win, but i do think, again, going into it, he has the lead in terms of the paths to get to 270 from an electoral standpoint, so i think the obama campaign is feeling very good right now. >> let me ask you about this, because the romney campaign is telling allies to sort of talk up the republican chances in democratic leaning states, forcing obama on defense is what they're trying to do. is this a strategy, do you think, that can work by just trying to send out that message? >> well, look, momentum and the image of momentum is important for both camps, and there's people who like to vote for the winner. they like to say on wednesday
i mean, that certainly is really all that he needs, but in addition to that, he will probably win nevada, and i agree with ann. it's very, very close in florida. i'm not ready to say that romney will win it, but it is very close. i still think -- you know i have been saying this for several weeks that the latino vote will give president obama more than an edge in places like florida and nav mav and colorado and arizona even possibly to be able to give him that win, but i do think, again, going...
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he seems to be trailing in florida, he seems to be ahead in nevada and colorado as a tossup. if you read nate silver and the new york times, who i think is the best in compiling all of the polls, right now, the president is leading and has enough. >> okay, election day on tuesday. we're expecting a winner that night. you're saying not so fast. why? >> i don't see how you, if it's as close as everyone said, how there will be declared a winner because of one thing, and i brought it up a few days ago and it bears repeating. there will be hundreds of thousands, hundreds of thousands, let me repeat that, of provisional votes cast in ohio. that is votes that can not be counted because of absentee ballots and other permutations of the election day in ohio and they can't be counted for 10 days. if you have a tight race and 18 electoral votes make the difference. >> right. >> we won't know the results in ohio on election day. >> early voting so far, huge turnouts all over. does it bode better for one or another? >> democrats feel that early voting helps them and that republicans are m
he seems to be trailing in florida, he seems to be ahead in nevada and colorado as a tossup. if you read nate silver and the new york times, who i think is the best in compiling all of the polls, right now, the president is leading and has enough. >> okay, election day on tuesday. we're expecting a winner that night. you're saying not so fast. why? >> i don't see how you, if it's as close as everyone said, how there will be declared a winner because of one thing, and i brought it up...
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third race that is looking very difficult to call at this point and should be a good one to watch is nevada. another presidential battleground state. i think at this point, most people think obama has a little bit of an edge there, but the republican has shown some ability to get democratic votes and people think he will run ahead of mitt romney in the state. that is a state where ticket splitters could make a difference in the senate race and that has been an incredibly close senate race as well. >> is there anything that would surprise you coming out of election night? >> although people thought republicans would gain control of the senate for a very long time in the beginning of this cycle, at this point, i think republicans actually picking up the four seats they need to gain senate control would really surprise me. they have had a few different things working against them. there have been some flawed candidates like todd akin and richard mourdock. those were races that the republicans were expected to win and now mr. looks like a democratic pickup. it looks more likely the democrats wi
third race that is looking very difficult to call at this point and should be a good one to watch is nevada. another presidential battleground state. i think at this point, most people think obama has a little bit of an edge there, but the republican has shown some ability to get democratic votes and people think he will run ahead of mitt romney in the state. that is a state where ticket splitters could make a difference in the senate race and that has been an incredibly close senate race as...
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. >> a presidential election will disappear, colorado, mexico, texas, florida, nevada. we won't have a chance. >> it's tough to have -- explain, gentlemen, we have primaries and we better do something. because we line up with hispanic voters. i think we do. we could argue that for hours. but our values and where we are as a party, but we're in tenuous territory. this election will tell us a lot about it. >> i told them had we started. we're not even going to get to the beginning of all of this. when we come back, we're going to be on something completely different. well, maybe not. but how many times have you heard someone say if so-and-so wins, i'm moving to canada. oh, yeah. we're going to live to our maybe in the north to even see whether or not they want us there. or that printing in color had to cost a fortune. nobody said an all-in-one had to be bulky. or that you had to print from your desk. at least, nobody said it to us. introducing the business smart inkjet all-in-one series from brother. easy to use, it's the ultimate combination of speed, small size, and low
. >> a presidential election will disappear, colorado, mexico, texas, florida, nevada. we won't have a chance. >> it's tough to have -- explain, gentlemen, we have primaries and we better do something. because we line up with hispanic voters. i think we do. we could argue that for hours. but our values and where we are as a party, but we're in tenuous territory. this election will tell us a lot about it. >> i told them had we started. we're not even going to get to the...